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    Convert private car to commercial?

    I am sure this has been asked many times and I believe the legislation changed about this. I can not find any information though.

    How can I convert a normal 5 doors car to a commercial. Car will be used for car shows etc. Car is petrol. Do I need to be registered as a car dealer or something along those lines?

    Cheers

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    Change to Goods (Commercial) Tax Class

    In order to tax a vehicle at the Goods rate, the vehicle can only be used as a goods carrying vehicle in the course of a business/trade and cannot be used at any time for social, domestic or pleasure purposes.
    • When changing the tax class of a commercial vehicle to Goods (Commercial), the registered owner must submit a valid weight docket from an Authorised Weighbridge issued within the past 3 working days.
    • Commercial vehicles under 1524 kg must complete RF111A Goods Only RF111A at a Garda station (form available from Motor Tax Office or at a Garda Station) and submit with one of the following as supporting documentation:

    Original Commercial Insurance Certificate
    Original Notice of Tax Registration form
    Evidence of registration for VAT
    Any Goods vehicle over one year old will also need a valid DOE Pass Statement in order to tax the vehicle.

    The Motor Tax Office no longer inspect vehicles converted to goods vehicles, etc., as the procedure for converting vehicles has been revised by the Revenue Commissioners. You must follow this revised procedure if the conversion will result in any of the following:1. A change in vehicle category (e.g. from passenger to commercial, or vice versa)
    2. A change in number of seats or seatbelt fittings
    3. A change in bodywork / body type of the vehicle
    The first step is to complete a Declaration of Conversion Form (these are available on www.revenue.ie or at the approved NSAI Test Centres). The owner completes part of the form and the works must be certified on the remainder of the form either by a suitably qualified individual or Approved NSAI Test Centre

    Form:
    http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/for...eclaration.pdf
    Form R111: http://www.environ.ie/en/LocalGovern...oad,495,en.pdf
    Last edited by OutRun; 02-05-2013 at 02:26 PM.

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    1. Remove back seats + belts etc.

    2. Get the DOE test done (cost €80 approx.)

    3. Get the vehicle weighed at an official weighbridge, and a weigh docket.

    4. Bring the vehicle to an approved test centre. I don't know what the nature of this test is, but they are the only ones who can fill out the required form.
    Have a look here to find the nearest one to you.
    http://www.nsai.ie/Our-Services/Cert...t-Centers.aspx
    (Cost €141 approx)

    5. The cert you get from the approved testers then needs to be sent to the Revenue Commissioners in Rosslare

    6. When you get the cert back from Revenue you need to bring it to your local motor tax office together with the following documents:

    a) DOE cert

    b) Weighbridge docket

    c) Certificate of tax clearance, a letter from your employer, or a herd number (I don't know about the farming side of this) - whichever applies to your work.

    d) You'll also need the change of ownership form, if you've just bought the vehicle.

    e) Application form for road tax for the next six months + the money for that.

    f) A form from, and signed by the Gardaí stating that the vehicle is for work use only. (Goods only Declaration form).

    8. An officer from the tax office may also ask to inspect the vehicle.

    So the costs are:
    €80 + €140 + Road tax

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...php?p=80210529

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    Thanks bud.
    The car is a coupe 2 seaters not really fit for carrying goods.
    I saw custom cars with crazy sound system from Nova radio but also Redbull etc, surely those cars are not private, plus they were Hummers, do they fall under Goods Transportation vehicules?

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    There is specific requirements for this like, distance from back doors to seats etc and once you met them it was easy to get car or jeep re-registered, there were even TT Supra vans before the recession in 2007, but it's much harder to convert unsuitable cars now. Once they are converted then they can stay that way as far as I know. Best thing is chat to the lads involved, the owners of these vehicles next time, and see what is a suitable vehicle to perform this on in 2013, and if you convert a Supra or a 350Z into a van like I saw roaming the roads of Ireland previously, I'll buy you a drink next time we meet !

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    Quote Originally Posted by OutRun View Post
    There is specific requirements for this like, distance from back doors to seats etc and once you met them it was easy to get car or jeep re-registered, there were even TT Supra vans before the recession in 2007, but it's much harder to convert unsuitable cars now. Once they are converted then they can stay that way as far as I know. Best thing is chat to the lads involved, the owners of these vehicles next time, and see what is a suitable vehicle to perform this on in 2013, and if you convert a Supra or a 350Z into a van like I saw roaming the roads of Ireland previously, I'll buy you a drink next time we meet !
    I see thank you again

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    A 147 GTA van would be nice.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OutRun View Post
    4. Bring the vehicle to an approved test centre. I don't know what the nature of this test is, but they are the only ones who can fill out the required form.
    Have a look here to find the nearest one to you.
    http://www.nsai.ie/Our-Services/Cert...t-Centers.aspx
    (Cost €141 approx)

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...php?p=80210529
    A suitably qualified and insured insurance assessor or motor engineer can sign off on the declaration of vehicle conversion form as well, I normally charge 120 euro to do the report(Octane discount would apply for anyone wanting it done

    http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/for...eclaration.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by gofaster_s13 View Post
    A suitably qualified and insured insurance assessor or motor engineer can sign off on the declaration of vehicle conversion form as well, I normally charge 120 euro to do the report(Octane discount would apply for anyone wanting it done

    http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/for...eclaration.pdf
    Would you sign off a Maserati 4200?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Germaniks View Post
    Would you sign off a Maserati 4200?
    If it met all the criteria for a goods vehicle then I would sign it off.

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