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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnRA View Post
    The logbook wouldn't be sent off Richey. Once the deal is done, the salesperson hands it over to the admin and they do the change of ownership on motortrans.

    The car is then in your name 24 hours later.

    In saying that, they could have given you the heads up it was done so you could declare it off the road for the remainder of Jan and tax it in Feb.

    Edit: It was definitely done to get a deal over the line in January. Most likely to ensure commission and bonus. If it's the you-know-who group, one salesperson not hitting their KPI means the entire sales team won't get their bonus. It also means the sales manager bonus suffers. There's a good case they were overruled or told to put the deal through.

    Strictly speaking, ownership shouldn't have been changed until your last payment on 1st Feb.

    Stick your reg in here and check when they changed ownership and go from there. https://www.motortax.ie/OMT/changeVehicleDetails.do
    Hi John,
    Thank you so much for the details and helpful information.

    Transferred on the 28th which was a Thursday so I never had a chance and never given a heads up either. Iím disappointed in that by them.

    Thanks again


    Note:
    Iím not looking for sympathy just some helpful information. I donít like to waste money and this to me was a complete waste of money.

  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by OutRun View Post
    Man gets upset about 79 euros in tax after spending approx 70,000 euros, on an Audi.
    This thread has given me my morning chuckle. Well done.

    Come on tell us all, is this a wind up ???
    So if you just keep telling yourself that you are loosing Ä150 every single week in depreciation, I'm sure you'll soon forget the Ä79

  3. #13
    I'm with you Richey. My missus slags me re frugality but secretly admires me for it
    2005 Alfa 166 2.0TS Grigio Geo - Daily Driver
    2003 Alfa 156 1.8TS Sportwagon Blu Cosmo
    2002 Alfa 166 2.0 Blu Odissea - Donor-currently dismantling
    2001 Alfa 166 3.0 Proteo Rosso - The Beast - resting for now
    2000 Alfa 166 2.5 V6 Auto Verde Argo - the Baby
    2000 Alfa 156 2.0 TS Selespeed Sportwagon Vela Blu
    1999 Alfa 166 2.5 V6 Grigio Nettuno - Track Car
    1984 Alfasud 1.5 Gold Cloverleaf Florentine Copper - the other Baby

  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by richeyc2000 View Post
    Hi John,
    Thank you so much for the details and helpful information.

    Transferred on the 28th which was a Thursday so I never had a chance and never given a heads up either. Iím disappointed in that by them.

    Thanks again


    Note:
    Iím not looking for sympathy just some helpful information. I donít like to waste money and this to me was a complete waste of money.
    Ownership was transferred on the 28th, which is the day you say you took delivery of the car. I'm sorry if I'm misunderstanding here, but I don't see that the dealership or salesman did anything wrong here. If you took delivery of the car in January, and were driving it on the road then, tax was due.

  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by richeyc2000 View Post
    Hi John,
    Thank you so much for the details and helpful information.

    Transferred on the 28th which was a Thursday so I never had a chance and never given a heads up either. I’m disappointed in that by them.

    Thanks again


    Note:
    I’m not looking for sympathy just some helpful information. I don’t like to waste money and this to me was a complete waste of money.
    For what it's worth, I don't think you're being unreasonable. Money is money, regardless of the percentage against the overall cost.

    I don't think anyone here would happily hand someone €80 for nothing.

    At the very least, the admin or the salesperson could have declared it off the road for you the following day. I did it all the time when registering cars or changing ownership if the vehicle wasn't being picked up the same day.

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewOBW View Post
    Ownership was transferred on the 28th, which is the day you say you took delivery of the car. I'm sorry if I'm misunderstanding here, but I don't see that the dealership or salesman did anything wrong here. If you took delivery of the car in January, and were driving it on the road then, tax was due.
    From what I've read, it looks like the dealership had the car in his name before final payment and collection.

    No garage is going to release a car before final payment is in their bank account. In this case, 1st of Feb.

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    Such is the sadness that I was moved to compose a song to moun Richeys loss:

    Sad are the homes round Garryowen
    Since they lost their joy and pride
    And the banshee cry links every vale
    Around the Shannon side that city of the ancient walls
    The broken treaty stone, undying fame surrounds Richey from Garryowen.

    T'was on a dreary New Years Eve
    As the shades of night came down
    A lorry load of eager Audi buyers approached the border town
    There were men from Dublin and from Cork, Fermanagh and Tyrone
    And the leader was a backroads man, Richey was his name.

    As they moved along the street up to the garage door
    They scorned the danger they might face
    Their fate that lay in-store
    They were fighting for old Ireland to claim that Audi for their very own

    And the foremost of that gallant band
    Richey was his name
    But the salesman spied his daring plan
    He spied them through the door
    The Sten guns and the rifles a hail of death did pour
    And when that awful night had passed
    79 euros lay cold as stone
    There was one from near the border town and one from Garryowen

    No more will he hear the seagull's cry
    Over the murmurring Shannon tide
    For he fell beneath a Northern sky brave backroaders by his side
    They have gone to join that gallant band
    Of Plunkett, Pearse and Tone
    A martyr for old Ireland
    Richey and his 79 euros,
    all the way from Garryowen.
    Quote Originally Posted by crank_case View Post
    Get out there and drive it as much as possible...You or it will not be around forever, at least not with any original parts.

  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnRA View Post
    From what I've read, it looks like the dealership had the car in his name before final payment and collection.

    No garage is going to release a car before final payment is in their bank account. In this case, 1st of Feb.
    I can 100% confirm I made a final balance payment on Friday 29th Jan so it could not have hit there account until at least the 1st Feb.

  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnRA View Post
    For what it's worth, I don't think you're being unreasonable. Money is money, regardless of the percentage against the overall cost.

    I don't think anyone here would happily hand someone Ä80 for nothing.

    At the very least, the admin or the salesperson could have declared it off the road for you the following day. I did it all the time when registering cars or changing ownership if the vehicle wasn't being picked up the same day.
    Thanks John.

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by OutRun View Post
    Such is the sadness that I was moved to compose a song to moun Richeys loss:

    Sad are the homes round Garryowen
    Since they lost their joy and pride
    And the banshee cry links every vale
    Around the Shannon side that city of the ancient walls
    The broken treaty stone, undying fame surrounds Richey from Garryowen.

    T'was on a dreary New Years Eve
    As the shades of night came down
    A lorry load of eager Audi buyers approached the border town
    There were men from Dublin and from Cork, Fermanagh and Tyrone
    And the leader was a backroads man, Richey was his name.

    As they moved along the street up to the garage door
    They scorned the danger they might face
    Their fate that lay in-store
    They were fighting for old Ireland to claim that Audi for their very own

    And the foremost of that gallant band
    Richey was his name
    But the salesman spied his daring plan
    He spied them through the door
    The Sten guns and the rifles a hail of death did pour
    And when that awful night had passed
    79 euros lay cold as stone
    There was one from near the border town and one from Garryowen

    No more will he hear the seagull's cry
    Over the murmurring Shannon tide
    For he fell beneath a Northern sky brave backroaders by his side
    They have gone to join that gallant band
    Of Plunkett, Pearse and Tone
    A martyr for old Ireland
    Richey and his 79 euros,
    all the way from Garryowen.
    Brilliant. Thatís lifted my mood already.

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