Tax Arrears refund scenario from new car purchase question.

[richeyc2000]

The logbook wouldn't be sent off Richey. Once the deal is done, the salesperson hands it over to the admin and they do the change of ownership on motortrans.

The car is then in your name 24 hours later.

In saying that, they could have given you the heads up it was done so you could declare it off the road for the remainder of Jan and tax it in Feb.

Edit: It was definitely done to get a deal over the line in January. Most likely to ensure commission and bonus. If it's the you-know-who group, one salesperson not hitting their KPI means the entire sales team won't get their bonus. It also means the sales manager bonus suffers. There's a good case they were overruled or told to put the deal through.

Strictly speaking, ownership shouldn't have been changed until your last payment on 1st Feb.

Stick your reg in here and check when they changed ownership and go from there. https://www.motortax.ie/OMT/changeVehicleDetails.do

Hi John,
Thank you so much for the details and helpful information.

Transferred on the 28th which was a Thursday so I never had a chance and never given a heads up either. I’m disappointed in that by them.

Thanks again


Note:
I’m not looking for sympathy just some helpful information. I don’t like to waste money and this to me was a complete waste of money.

[dave.irl]

Man gets upset about 79 euros in tax after spending approx 70,000 euros, on an Audi.
This thread has given me my morning chuckle. Well done.

Come on tell us all, is this a wind up ???

So if you just keep telling yourself that you are loosing €150 every single week in depreciation, I'm sure you'll soon forget the €79

[Roarsbaby]

I'm with you Richey. My missus slags me re frugality but secretly admires me for it

[AndrewOBW]

Hi John,
Thank you so much for the details and helpful information.

Transferred on the 28th which was a Thursday so I never had a chance and never given a heads up either. I’m disappointed in that by them.

Thanks again


Note:
I’m not looking for sympathy just some helpful information. I don’t like to waste money and this to me was a complete waste of money.

Ownership was transferred on the 28th, which is the day you say you took delivery of the car. I'm sorry if I'm misunderstanding here, but I don't see that the dealership or salesman did anything wrong here. If you took delivery of the car in January, and were driving it on the road then, tax was due.

[JohnRA]

Hi John,
Thank you so much for the details and helpful information.

Transferred on the 28th which was a Thursday so I never had a chance and never given a heads up either. I’m disappointed in that by them.

Thanks again


Note:
I’m not looking for sympathy just some helpful information. I don’t like to waste money and this to me was a complete waste of money.

For what it's worth, I don't think you're being unreasonable. Money is money, regardless of the percentage against the overall cost.

I don't think anyone here would happily hand someone €80 for nothing.

At the very least, the admin or the salesperson could have declared it off the road for you the following day. I did it all the time when registering cars or changing ownership if the vehicle wasn't being picked up the same day.

[JohnRA]

Ownership was transferred on the 28th, which is the day you say you took delivery of the car. I'm sorry if I'm misunderstanding here, but I don't see that the dealership or salesman did anything wrong here. If you took delivery of the car in January, and were driving it on the road then, tax was due.

From what I've read, it looks like the dealership had the car in his name before final payment and collection.

No garage is going to release a car before final payment is in their bank account. In this case, 1st of Feb.

[OutRun]

Such is the sadness that I was moved to compose a song to moun Richeys loss:

Sad are the homes round Garryowen
Since they lost their joy and pride
And the banshee cry links every vale
Around the Shannon side that city of the ancient walls
The broken treaty stone, undying fame surrounds Richey from Garryowen.

T'was on a dreary New Years Eve
As the shades of night came down
A lorry load of eager Audi buyers approached the border town
There were men from Dublin and from Cork, Fermanagh and Tyrone
And the leader was a backroads man, Richey was his name.

As they moved along the street up to the garage door
They scorned the danger they might face
Their fate that lay in-store
They were fighting for old Ireland to claim that Audi for their very own

And the foremost of that gallant band
Richey was his name
But the salesman spied his daring plan
He spied them through the door
The Sten guns and the rifles a hail of death did pour
And when that awful night had passed
79 euros lay cold as stone
There was one from near the border town and one from Garryowen

No more will he hear the seagull's cry
Over the murmurring Shannon tide
For he fell beneath a Northern sky brave backroaders by his side
They have gone to join that gallant band
Of Plunkett, Pearse and Tone
A martyr for old Ireland
Richey and his 79 euros,
all the way from Garryowen.

[richeyc2000]

From what I've read, it looks like the dealership had the car in his name before final payment and collection.

No garage is going to release a car before final payment is in their bank account. In this case, 1st of Feb.

I can 100% confirm I made a final balance payment on Friday 29th Jan so it could not have hit there account until at least the 1st Feb.

[richeyc2000]

For what it's worth, I don't think you're being unreasonable. Money is money, regardless of the percentage against the overall cost.

I don't think anyone here would happily hand someone €80 for nothing.

At the very least, the admin or the salesperson could have declared it off the road for you the following day. I did it all the time when registering cars or changing ownership if the vehicle wasn't being picked up the same day.

Thanks John.

[richeyc2000]

Such is the sadness that I was moved to compose a song to moun Richeys loss:

Sad are the homes round Garryowen
Since they lost their joy and pride
And the banshee cry links every vale
Around the Shannon side that city of the ancient walls
The broken treaty stone, undying fame surrounds Richey from Garryowen.

T'was on a dreary New Years Eve
As the shades of night came down
A lorry load of eager Audi buyers approached the border town
There were men from Dublin and from Cork, Fermanagh and Tyrone
And the leader was a backroads man, Richey was his name.

As they moved along the street up to the garage door
They scorned the danger they might face
Their fate that lay in-store
They were fighting for old Ireland to claim that Audi for their very own

And the foremost of that gallant band
Richey was his name
But the salesman spied his daring plan
He spied them through the door
The Sten guns and the rifles a hail of death did pour
And when that awful night had passed
79 euros lay cold as stone
There was one from near the border town and one from Garryowen

No more will he hear the seagull's cry
Over the murmurring Shannon tide
For he fell beneath a Northern sky brave backroaders by his side
They have gone to join that gallant band
Of Plunkett, Pearse and Tone
A martyr for old Ireland
Richey and his 79 euros,
all the way from Garryowen.

Brilliant. That’s lifted my mood already.