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  • I know the CDC had to drop the mask requirement on flights in the last 24h but what is the story in the EU actually? I was on a few flights last week where there was certainly no 100% mask wearing and nobody cared. I don't know if it's just fading or something changed. In any event it's all a bit fictional as you invariably have it off for a decent stretch of a European flight anyhow to do the coffee and sandwiches bit.

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    • I don't believe there is any Irish legislation in effect. Airlines may have rules/requirements of passengers.

      I kind of expect the US decision to be challenged, but if I understand rightly it was a regulation made by CDC and not legislation passed by congress, which is a bit dubious to my eyes. To be honest, I think that the vulnerability to constitutional challenge was a key factor behind our decision to drop mask requirements and replace with recommendations.
      Last edited by SJ; 19-04-2022, 11:26 AM.
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      • Originally posted by Cold View Post
        I know the CDC had to drop the mask requirement on flights in the last 24h but what is the story in the EU actually? I was on a few flights last week where there was certainly no 100% mask wearing and nobody cared. I don't know if it's just fading or something changed. In any event it's all a bit fictional as you invariably have it off for a decent stretch of a European flight anyhow to do the coffee and sandwiches bit.
        Lufthansa is strictly masks still, and strictly correct grade masks also. Just travelled with them the weekend gone to Frankfurt.

        Ryanair still ask for masks at the boarding gate but its hit and miss with the staff on board if its regulated.

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        • This was with KLM and there was certainly no Lufthansa-esque mask lecture at boarding and I just googled it, KLM apparently said a couple of weeks ago that they will not enforce it on flights. For some reason I thought this was regulated by somebody and there was no option to not wear.

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          • Recent BA flight to / from Rome and they were very, very strict on not just mask wearing, but ensuring the masks were FFP2 / N95.
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            • Originally posted by PaddyMcGrath View Post
              Recent BA flight to / from Rome and they were very, very strict on not just mask wearing, but ensuring the masks were FFP2 / N95.
              Just looked it up and thats a country requirement - so flights to Italy and Austria require them.

              Flew to Liverpool a while back and it was enforced getting on (any type of mask sufficed). You could take it off if you were eating or drinking - needless to say, a good chunk of people spent the whole flight sipping drinks.

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              • Flew BA to London last week, no mask wearing required and even the staff weren't wearing them. AL on the way home and they asked everyone to wear a mask.

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                • There's an interesting tidbit about EY's ‘1 Government Centre Project’ (1GC) in this article. I know it's the Indo and should probably come with an Irish State Media tag, and I was aware of some of the content in the proposal but the depth and scope of it - if this article is to be believed - is surprising. Must get a hold of the book.

                  I must say the pro-cash only people always raised a wry smile from me but if this was on the table at some point then I have to say they're not entirely wrong at all.

                  Meanwhile, the book also discloses details of a plan considered by government to develop a dystopian surveillance system using information CCTV, credit card transactions and mobile phone data to ensure people were adhering to social ­distancing rules.

                  Information from social media and banking data on takeaway habits was also to be collated and tracked under the strategy developed by consultancy firm EY.

                  “What emerged was an almost Orwellian plan, bizarrely dubbed 1 Government Centre (1GC),” the book says.
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                  https://www.independent.ie/irish-new...-41606011.html
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                  • Not sure about that plan, but the last issue mentioned in that article is 100% accurate.
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                    • Was thinking about this thread the other day and said id give it a bump.

                      What are people's opinions on the last 2 years in hindsight?

                      Will covid return this winter?

                      Are people and their families still taking the boosters?

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                      • After avoiding it for the last two years, mrs Cappo and myself got the plague about eight weeks ago. We had been reasonable careful, without been paranoid, but inevitably I suppose it was going to strike. Mrs Cappo, who has an medical condition and myself got through it very well. Flu like symptoms, a couple of days out of action and then back to fairly normal. Very tired for the next couple of weeks. We were fully jabbed, and I guess that’s what perverted real sickness. We are both in the vulnerable groups, both seventy plus VAT and VRT!

                        I guess the plague is here to stay, really difficult to avoid it at this stage.

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                        • Great that this hasn’t been updated in 4 months really. Good to hear ye didn’t get hit too hard capo. I don’t think I’ll be getting any more boosters from here on out unless they are mandatory for something that I really want to do. I hope it doesn’t come back but I imagine the winter will be a breeding ground for it again.
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                          • We're back to school with a bang again anyway. Member of staff already out sick with it. Has me eyeing up the box of masks in the corner again <sigh>, thought I'd seen the back of 'em.

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                            • I've two kids and a mrs back to school so no doubt it'll rear its head.
                              Having said that I did have it back in June and only tested negative the day before I went to Egypt for my hols, felt sick for a couple of hours at the beginning and that was it. No bother.
                              Until I nearly passed out in the airport the following day, felt like DAA had put me in the ring with a heavy weight but was fine after a sit down.

                              It's still around but not a level that the masses care about - all my trips to Germany this year remind me it's still a thing but it's gas how the inconvenience of wearing a mask again seems such an effort and wierd despite it being an everyday thing only a few months ago.

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                              • Originally posted by Cappo View Post
                                After avoiding it for the last two years, mrs Cappo and myself got the plague about eight weeks ago. We had been reasonable careful, without been paranoid, but inevitably I suppose it was going to strike. Mrs Cappo, who has an medical condition and myself got through it very well. Flu like symptoms, a couple of days out of action and then back to fairly normal. Very tired for the next couple of weeks. We were fully jabbed, and I guess that’s what perverted real sickness. We are both in the vulnerable groups, both seventy plus VAT and VRT!

                                I guess the plague is here to stay, really difficult to avoid it at this stage.
                                Same as my own family, we got it for the first time about 4 weeks ago and similar symptoms. Until my 2yo ended up in hospital with a fever and unknown rash covering 80-90% of her body which ended up being an unknown virus they reckoned. She also tested positive when she arrived and we were sure she was patient zero and it'd come/gone from me. So it could be coincidence or could have been an after effect of Covid, my wife had a long conversation with the Covid research group in case it helps them.

                                On a slightly different note, my brothers doctor (who he last met with mask on due to C19 outbreak) reckoned the flu would be the big killer this year due to immunity dropping....

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