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  • Wanted: E46 or E92 M3

    Sigh......having owned both before, I thought I'd jump back in at the very top of the market, having of course long ago sold mine for sweet fa.

    I'm after one of two things:

    E46 M3 manual, no convertibles and absolutely no SMG

    Or

    E92 M3 in manual or DCT.

    It'll eventually be a stripped out track car, so spec is fairly unimportant. I would obviously prefer without a sunroof. I would consider something modified for track already. There are some complications re cages however. I need the car to go through a German TUV test to be used at the ring, its unlikely to pass with a full weld in cage, but I can remove or modify.

    I would prefer right hand drive, but not a deal breaker.

    UK plates are no problem, it won't see Irish roads.

  • #2
    This might suit you already gone through the TUV and RHD


    https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-...nt=app_android

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    • #3
      Originally posted by daveol View Post
      Sigh......having owned both before, I thought I'd jump back in at the very top of the market, having of course long ago sold mine for sweet fa.

      I'm after one of two things:

      E46 M3 manual, no convertibles and absolutely no SMG

      Or

      E92 M3 in manual or DCT.

      It'll eventually be a stripped out track car, so spec is fairly unimportant. I would obviously prefer without a sunroof. I would consider something modified for track already. There are some complications re cages however. I need the car to go through a German TUV test to be used at the ring, its unlikely to pass with a full weld in cage, but I can remove or modify.

      I would prefer right hand drive, but not a deal breaker.

      UK plates are no problem, it won't see Irish roads.
      Deans have an Club Sport E46 incoming not sure of transmission may be worth investigating

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      • #4
        There's top of the market. Then there's Deans.

        I'd say the UK is the best bet, for a track car.

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        • #5
          Aside from it coming from Deanes, it's a boggo spec car you'd want to be stripping out for track use rather than a CS.

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          • #6
            Deane's CS is going to be a 40k plus car I'd say. Definitely not something you'd gut for track use.

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            Last edited by alanmcgrathE34; 15-09-2021, 10:04 PM.

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            • #7
              Thanks lads.........I did see that car coming up allright. I was going to enquire, but I think as above I'd only be annoying myself........I'd prefer to go E46, but they're definitely on the cusp of becoming collectors cars. The E92 is making more and more sense economically, as the prices are almost starting to line up. And there's always the Evolve air box, that's reason enough to buy the car alone........

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              • #8
                Some of the work done for you already here but needs some reasonably important bits and pieces.




                https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/De...sis-bmw-e46-m3

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                • #9
                  TUV approval can run into the tens of thousands if you are not carefull. Why not go straight to the original stable than looking here?

                  A very quick search around the Nurburging area reveals the following.

                  E36 M3

                  https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-...19564-216-5437

                  E46 M3. Irish owned.

                  https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-...7512-216-18753

                  E36 M3

                  https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-...08412-216-4892

                  E92 M3 complete with Schirmer Tax

                  https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-...63676-216-1324

                  E92 M3 Manual, stock...

                  https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-...22817-216-5447


                  E92 M3 Latvian plates. Unsure how easy it would TUV

                  https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-...9330-216-20650

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                  • #10
                    Forgive my ignorance but what is TUV approval?

                    Is it required for cars that are sold in Germany?

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                    • #11
                      Think it’s ze Germans NCT equivalent.
                      ElDel, “I ask this purely out curiosity DMZ, but did your lack of interest in the generic come from your ownership experience of the Golf R?”

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Titan View Post
                        Forgive my ignorance but what is TUV approval?

                        Is it required for cars that are sold in Germany?
                        Like Baz said its their version of the NCT. Its a lot stricter than the NCT with all parts fitted requiring a TUV cert, The car then has to maintain a book with all the certs necessary. If you are stopped the Polizei can and do go over the car with a fine toothcomb. For example, your Recaro seats will have a TUV cert and serial number, you then swap them for a different set of Recaros but the same model. The serial numbers wont match, You then need to submit these for the next TUV to match everything up.

                        It gets trickier, some aftermarket parts there is a price lift to issue a TUV cert with that part. Currently looking at CAE shifters, there is a €100 charge for a TUV cert with every shifter sold as they have to be serialised.

                        NCT will eventually follow this system, it will remove so many 'Wish' style modifications you see today on cars....

                        Good too as other items like Tyres for example! Landsails and similar cheap ass tyres are cheap as they are not subjected to TUV testing.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by miller View Post
                          TUV approval can run into the tens of thousands if you are not carefull. Why not go straight to the original stable than looking here?

                          A very quick search around the Nurburging area reveals the following.

                          E36 M3

                          https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-...19564-216-5437

                          E46 M3. Irish owned.

                          https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-...7512-216-18753

                          E36 M3

                          https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-...08412-216-4892

                          E92 M3 complete with Schirmer Tax

                          https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-...63676-216-1324

                          E92 M3 Manual, stock...

                          https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-...22817-216-5447


                          E92 M3 Latvian plates. Unsure how easy it would TUV

                          https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-...9330-216-20650


                          Thanks for the info. I've been spending a lot of time on ebay.de. My stumbling bloack is that ideally I'd like rear interior and half cage, so I could use the car to have a look around the greater area when the track is wet or closed. With full cage I'd have to go full AirWolf on the streets with a helmet. Besides being baked alive on hot days. First world problems and all that.........

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by daveol View Post



                            Thanks for the info. I've been spending a lot of time on ebay.de. My stumbling bloack is that ideally I'd like rear interior and half cage, so I could use the car to have a look around the greater area when the track is wet or closed. With full cage I'd have to go full AirWolf on the streets with a helmet. Besides being baked alive on hot days. First world problems and all that.........
                            Not necessarily, I run a full caged E46 out there and air con is all in place. The car gets driven around zero issue, helmets for track of course.

                            How to you intend transferring from Cologne/Frankfurt to the Ring in the first place? Usually a sh1t box rental from Sixt stands you 60-90euro for the weekend. Given the amount of track time a German DRT gets you by the time the track is closed the rental car is looking a fresher option!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by miller View Post

                              Like Baz said its their version of the NCT. Its a lot stricter than the NCT with all parts fitted requiring a TUV cert, The car then has to maintain a book with all the certs necessary. If you are stopped the Polizei can and do go over the car with a fine toothcomb. For example, your Recaro seats will have a TUV cert and serial number, you then swap them for a different set of Recaros but the same model. The serial numbers wont match, You then need to submit these for the next TUV to match everything up.

                              It gets trickier, some aftermarket parts there is a price lift to issue a TUV cert with that part. Currently looking at CAE shifters, there is a €100 charge for a TUV cert with every shifter sold as they have to be serialised.

                              NCT will eventually follow this system, it will remove so many 'Wish' style modifications you see today on cars....

                              Good too as other items like Tyres for example! Landsails and similar cheap ass tyres are cheap as they are not subjected to TUV testing.
                              Thanks for that miller,it sounds like a bit of a headache alright and no doubt as you say something similar will eventually materialise here no doubt.

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